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Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 19:56:00 -
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This is very funny to hear how CCP handled this. CCP admits that it was an exploit but the justice handed out is a joke. If this was 5 people from a corporation other than the Goons, they would have had a ban handed out. I guess having that many subscriptions can bend the mighty CCP.
Giving the one goon who snitched (after being part of the 2 week exploit) an award - while that is one giant cherry on top of the sundae that has been thrown in CCP's face.
CCP doing stuff like this shows they have not changed much. |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 20:16:00 -
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Mechaet wrote:Mechael wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote: that's blowing someone up over and over again to magically get more money out of the same item. Huh. Sounds like PvE. That's what I was alluding to in my earlier post. Converting one item (Quake L) into isk by using a built-in item->isk converter (rat bounties) at a greater rate than it cost me to acquire the original item. I do this all day. I must be a long-running exploiter.
Well rat yourself out and get an award |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 20:38:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Kern Hotha wrote:Ex-Goon working in the security department at CCP gets assigned the task of adjudicating Goon exploiters.
Ex-Goon deems that no punishment is necessary. Light slap on the wrist given to exploiters. Chief exploiter rewarded with gift card.
"Comedy is allied to justice." - Aristophanes Hi Capsuleer Kern Hotha, you may have missed the bit where we pointed out that these are group decisions. I'm pleased you feel it necessary to question my integrity but unfortunately for you in this case your conspiratorial scenario has no grounding in reality.
Giving them the "kids' glove' treatment is really fair? Do what usually happens to exploits - lock their accts and make them file a petition. That way they can go thru the normal channel of the petition like others have too. I bet having to wait for the petition to be looked at, the back and forth msgs, decision making, well that would be a fairier way of handling this.
Instead you do the work for them, wasting time and resources that could be spent on other paying subscribers.
Is doing this for them really fair to other subscribers CCP Sreegs? |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 20:44:00 -
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Querns wrote:Dealth Striker wrote:Instead you do the work for them, wasting time and resources that could be spent on other paying subscribers. fyi this sort of **** is Darius "CCP 'Jersey' Sreegs" Johnson's job they literally hire him to deal with this sort of **** he is not somehow sucking work away from other developers or gms like some kind of effort hungry vampire this is his job
"group decision" |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 20:52:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Dealth Striker wrote:Querns wrote:Dealth Striker wrote:Instead you do the work for them, wasting time and resources that could be spent on other paying subscribers. fyi this sort of **** is Darius "CCP 'Jersey' Sreegs" Johnson's job they literally hire him to deal with this sort of **** he is not somehow sucking work away from other developers or gms like some kind of effort hungry vampire this is his job "group decision" Plus I do not think he will personally be doing everything to do the so-called fix. Does he also just sit around waiting for something like to happen - I do not think so. CCP is a professional organization, meetings are a normal thing. And as to "other developers" getting pulled in on the fix - it means a hole in the game is fixed. Would you rather it be fixed after being used by five players who, as much as you might like to believe otherwise, went out of their way to minimize damage to the markets? Or would you have preferred CCP only really notice two or three months from now when it had crept into the wild and dozens of players were doing it? Because believe me, other players would have figured this out eventually, and CCP's time spent fixing it would be spent one way or another.
Sorry did not clarify - my comments are in regards to dealing with the 5 players and not the exploit itself |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 21:43:00 -
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CCP admitting it was an exploit - Kudos! CCP fixing said exploit - Kudos! CCP saying what is happening to the exploiters - Thumbs Down!
I feel u should have never said what their punishment (if you can call it that) was. CCP could have just said their accts are locked and they need to petition to get them unlocked. Then the public would not know (from CCP) how they were dealt with. But they would know what is involved in being in the petition queue.
From what I am reading in the blog and feedback, my opinion is:
Eve Community - the minority
Goons - the Majority |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 21:46:00 -
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apparently not |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.28 21:49:00 -
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corestwo wrote: 4000 players are a majority out of a few hundred thousand.
See I can do it too |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.29 00:25:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Spaja Saist wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Atomic Option wrote:I'm not sure I agree with rolling back their gains--although I'd definitely zero out their LP--but I'm not bent out of shape over it. At least the one guy got a free plex. That's pretty cool. PLEX reward scales with the severity of the exploitable condition so it'll be more than one. This just doesn't make any sense to me. A group of people exploited a game mechanic to make ungodly amounts of LP and ISK and you are rewarding them for it? I guarantee if this was anyone else but Goons they would have been banned. CCP your favoritism is showing and not in a good way. We're rewarding the person who brought us the problem. Just like any other time someone brings us problems of this nature as per the program linked in the dev blog.
There you go - CCP can release a summer event entitled - "Exploit for PLEX" |
Dealth Striker
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Posted - 2012.06.29 00:55:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:
I'm pretty sure that's not how this works and is specifically spoken against in the blog. While a great deal of LP was generated here the vast majority wasn't cashed out making it just a number in people's wallets. The proceeds were seized. No advantage is had. The market could have been crashed but the issue was reported instead. I know that will never be enough for some and that we're not going to please everyone but at the very least if you're going to post in this thread please at least make a modicum of effort to read the blog in question.
I read the blog - and have posted that my only concern is the way CCP is handling the exploiters. I have no ill-feelings to the exploiters - having worked for a major gaming comany in QA, I have always been thrilled to see how people can figure ways around normal game play, break things, etc. The fact they can manipulate CCP is enlightening. My beef is with CCP's handling of the exploiters. To say on the one hand we are following this to the letter (as an excuse) and then saying on the other hand we discussed this, and this is how we are handling it, is pretty funny. So if you look at it, there will always be an excuse given - so just man up and say the old saying "Our game, our rules, so either put up with it or there is the door". Do not insult peoples' intelligence with trying to come up with a believable excuse for justifying your actions.
Also, maybe should have kept the handling of the exploiters to in-house - you got to know it looks like favoritism. I would love to know the reasoning behind releasing the punishment to the forums. |
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